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Colorado Eleveners!

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:00 pm
by John Kirk
I have completed ranking the 11ers list, finding 29 more ranked peaks than the previous published list included. Among many interactive features are topozone links to peaks and saddles, weather links, sorts by elevation, prominence, isolation, quadrangle, etc. I will post a flat html file soon including the complete soft ranked and unranked named peaks.
ELEVENERS

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:38 pm
by Layne Bracy
Really nice, John. Interesting to see that there are far fewer 11ers than 12ers or 13ers. Maybe I'll try to finish them first. :disturbed:

The changing distribution is interesting, too. Not too many in the Sangres or Tenmile, and several "new" ranges coming into play down lower.

1314

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:52 pm
by DSunwall
Thanks John, always something interesting in a new list.
I was curious though, why is there no peak ranked 1314?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:22 pm
by kirkmallory
I noticed that Twin Sisters Peak East is 11,428 but Twin Sisters Mountain is 11,376. Should that be the other way around?

Great job creating the list!

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:46 pm
by Layne Bracy
The Twin Sisters nomenclature is difficult.

Looking at the topo, "Twin Sisters Peaks" is written near the 2 northern summits, Pt's 11428 and 11413, often referred to as the east and west summits. The west summit is unranked.

"Twin Sisters Mountain" is kind of sprawled across the whole area above treeline, including the three 11er summits and a couple unranked 10er points. Roach's list (and now John's) have called Pt 11376, the southern ranked 11er, Twin Sisters Mountain.

My interpretation is that TSPeaks refers to the 2 northern summits specifically, while TSMountain refers to the larger mountain in general. I think ranked Pt 11376 is probably unnamed.

If you type TSPeaks and TSMountain into topozone, both give an elevation of 11428. The location is a little different, TSP going to 11428 while TSM goes to the saddle between the 2 ranked summits.

Totally clear, right? :roll:

Re: 1314

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:18 pm
by John Kirk
DSunwall wrote:I was curious though, why is there no peak ranked 1314?


That's an awfully good question - rather than concoct an answer, I went ahead and fixed it. Thanks for pointing that out.

kirkmallory wrote:I noticed that Twin Sisters Peak East is 11,428 but Twin Sisters Mountain is 11,376. Should that be the other way around?


Looking at the map, I interpreted the Twin Sisters "peaks" as the two northern higher points, and applied the mountain name to the ranked southern peak. I guess one could make the case that the highest point should inherit the 'mountain' name.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:34 pm
by RyanSchilling
Fantastic job, John! I'm very impressed you worked through all those quads. Do you need a new pair of glasses now :-D

Caught a small typo while scanning the list. Timber Mountain Benchmark is missing its 'k' and Porphyry Mountain Benchmark is missing the 'ark'. Looks like it has something to do with a character count limit or the fact that both of those are too long to fit on one line of the table?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:16 pm
by John Kirk
Timber Mountain Benchmark is missing its 'k' and Porphyry Mountain Benchmark is missing the 'ark'.


Sure enough - the setting was varchar(24). Changed it to 27. found 2 others as well sorting on string length.[/quote]

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:43 am
by RyanSchilling
The changing distribution is interesting, too. Not too many in the Sangres or Tenmile, and several "new" ranges coming into play down lower.


I was looking through the Sangre 11ers as a group, and only three of them are in the core of the Sangres, from Poncha Pass to the Blancas. The rest are in the Culebra Range and in the group including and surrounding Maestas, and there's one solitary peak behind the Spanish Peaks.

That last one in particular irritates me. It's right behind the Cordova Pass Campground, and it would have been a really easy addition to a climb of West Spanish Peak.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:14 pm
by John Prater
Excellent work creating this list, John! I'm sure it took an extraordinary amount of time. Much appreciated!

A couple of corrections:

You have "Tarryall Peak" listed at 11,758'. The 11,758' spot is located on the map outside of an 11,760' contour. I believe the elevation on the list should be 11,780'.

You have Waugh Mountain in the Tenmile/Mosquito range, and I think that should be South Park.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:08 pm
by Layne Bracy
Another minor point:

I think the 11er Chief Mtn's A & B need to be bumped to B & C because there is a 13er named Chief Mtn, too.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:22 pm
by John Kirk
John, Layne - Thanks for pointing out those details.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:08 pm
by Layne Bracy
RyanSchilling wrote: That last one in particular irritates me. It's right behind the Cordova Pass Campground, and it would have been a really easy addition to a climb of West Spanish Peak.


Yep, always the remorse of passing up a peak that didn't seem to matter at the time. When Kevin Baker and I did Mummy Mania, we briefly thought about starting with Marmot Point, another gimme, but we decided to save our energy. It would've been a nice bonus.